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Song Rui · Sep 21, 2006, 11:43 PM // 23:43

i noe they god for pvp for support or intrupting etc. but i see all theis ppl ingame and here saying mesmer is good for pve. whai???? you hav eles/necros for dmg,war for tankig,and monks for healing.rits and ranger can support, while assasain suck. can someone tell m3 why mesmar so good in pve?

Song Rui · Sep 21, 2006, 11:46 PM // 23:46

onli thing i see dat good iz shatter hax. nice dmg spike when the war iz taknings

Opeth · Sep 21, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

what's a mesmar ?

joncoish · Sep 21, 2006, 11:47 PM // 23:47

Probably for the same reasons they're so good in pvp, they can shut you down. Mesmers can play pretty much any type of build, damage, degen, interrupt, etc, etc, they're just a bit difficult to get a grasp on.

Also, assassins do not suck. The class rules if played right. I'm having an easier time henching the Factions missions with my assassin then I've had with any other class of mine.

Song Rui · Sep 21, 2006, 11:49 PM // 23:49

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Originally Posted by joncoish

Probably for the same reasons they're so good in pvp, they can shut you down. Mesmers can play pretty much any type of build, damage, degen, interrupt, etc, etc, they're just a bit difficult to get a grasp on.

Also, assassins do not suck. The class rules if played right. I'm having an easier time henching the Factions missions with my assassin then I've had with any other class of mine.

but mesmar can onli shut down ONE THING. eles/necro can do a load of aoe dmg.

i just dont see whai.

Mesmer in Need · Sep 21, 2006, 11:59 PM // 23:59

ok i play a mesmer, bot in pvp and pve. i love mine. a mesmer can play almost any role, basted opon not only the mesmer skills, but also the secondary skills. my current build is a fast cast nuker- one of the most destructive builds in pve. i have also played degen, interrupt and e-denial, and they all work. u say that a mesmer can ony shut down one person at a time. well- thats why mesmers in pvp target monks. shutdown the monk, u shut down the entire team. most pvp teams rely on their monks alot. have 2 oppsoing monks? bring two mesmers. add degen + backfire + shatter/drain enchantment +some damage or interrupt skills, you will take down a monk pretty quickly. in pve, you can play rolls like my nuker, degen, fc healer, etc, etc.

shawatsies · Sep 22, 2006, 12:02 AM // 00:02

what kind of spelling is this crap? Please learn how to correctly use the english language and use spell check

Sol_Vie · Sep 22, 2006, 12:05 AM // 00:05

Lies. Mesmers can shut down multiple targets in PvE. My mesmer can usually task about 3-4 of anything. Backfire, Empathy, Conjure Phantasm + Clumsiness, etc etc...

Hella Good · Sep 22, 2006, 12:06 AM // 00:06

mesmar so goo in pve cous dei rock the boat like dat.

I hope this gets the message across.

luxor9 · Sep 22, 2006, 12:15 AM // 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Song Rui

i noe they god for pvp for support or intrupting etc. but i see all theis ppl ingame and here saying mesmer is good for pve. whai???? you hav eles/necros for dmg,war for tankig,and monks for healing.rits and ranger can support, while assasain suck. can someone tell m3 why mesmar so good in pve?

your opinions so far are bordering on insanity. I'll admit an assassin would probably suck if you made one but in general assassins only suck if the person playing them sucks. they are deadly damage dealers who can escape from any fight. Why are mesmers so good in pve? who said that? sure they can be good like all the other charcters. They can interupt or punish the opposition for the damage they attempt. They are great boss killers, and generally stay out of the way enough not to be a burden on your monks. They aren't pve gods and you rarely see GLF mesmers!! but they are effective in what they do.

Excal · Sep 22, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

When I read your post I begun crying on the inside

Mesmer in Need · Sep 22, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

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Originally Posted by luxor9

They aren't pve gods and you rarely see GLF mesmers!! but they are effective in what they do.

actually... in thk i saw a guy spamming "glf a primary mesmer"
i joined and we beat it.

Yukito Kunisaki · Sep 22, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

My mesmer is my only PvP slot but in PvE, I've seen some nasty AoE hex mesmers that allow a party to survive some obscene odds.

Virulence Mesmers [with the new Factions update skills] can really take mobs to hell with their new way of playing...

Empathy, Backfire, and other 'punish' skills can easily slam 3-5 foes before the mesmer has to wait to regen energy [which is bad if he doesn't have any inspiration skills, wtf? lol]

My mesmer I play in RA and CA just for kicks and well, let's just say he gets cussed out a lot...

Good mesmers can break an enemy pc team or pve team, depends on the player...

Ulivious The Reaper · Sep 22, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

mesmers are pretty good, people don't give them enough leiniency (i butchered that word) when it comes to builds because its not AOE enough, however, a good mesmer can equal the damage output of a Ele any day

Also, one of the rules in this forum is DON'T butcher the english language

Amok Affinity · Sep 22, 2006, 01:04 AM // 01:04

what the hell? isn't this (OP) sort of crap moderator-worthy? it's sincerely disgraceful...

lightblade · Sep 22, 2006, 01:29 AM // 01:29

Why am I hearing people talking about this suck that suck?

No prof suck in PvE or PvP....if you think they suck...thats because you suck too much to play it right...

Song Rui · Sep 22, 2006, 02:09 AM // 02:09

but aoe is all that matters in pve.

Terra Xin · Sep 22, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13

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Originally Posted by Song Rui

but aoe is all that matters in pve.

yeah... AoE... that's why elementalists are sitting in their forum complaining about how little damage they do...

Song Rui · Sep 22, 2006, 02:15 AM // 02:15

wtf? eles do decent damage in pve already. what are these people talking about?

lightblade · Sep 22, 2006, 02:23 AM // 02:23

Really, PuG usually don't specifically "lf mesmer". But they'll invite mesmer when they see one is looking for group.

Shatter Hex is one of the highest damaging spell in the game. Only second to Balthazar's Aura, which...recharges slower than Shatter Hex and cost more energy.

Empathy do 30 dmg at rank 15. You can use arcane echo and hex 4 foes at once. That's 120 dmg per second.

Illusion also does good damage. Conjure Phantasm causes -5 degen. That's 10 (dmg/sec) * 14 seconds = 140 damage.